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PostPosted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 10:21 pm    Post subject: Ed Guss on the prowl again? Reply with quote

http://www.1919a4.com/forums/showthread.php?t=30421

All I know is what has been said here, but if you know anyone in on that group buy you might want to give them a warning.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 6:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah...this story certainly appears to have a predictable ending Laughing

I was not going to say anything there until I found a reference to this site in his response. I guess if folks choose to be that ignorant, they need to experience for themselves life's hard lessons. Then again, he just might have changed his ways and is now an honest business man Laughing Sorry, I couldn't keep a straight face on that last part Razz
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 8:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What did Ed guss do?
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 9:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

He sells things that he doesn't have in the first place
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 11:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

WarCloud wrote:
He sells things that he doesn't have in the first place



I read around and got the picture.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 9:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do a google on Edward N. Guss (Kissimmee, FL) evidently he also buys things without paying for them too.

In consideration of all the available information on Ed's dealings, I sincerely hope the willingly ignorant (kind way of saying dumbasses) that are lining up to buy from this guy learns a lesson they can at least pass down to their children...hopefully then it will not be a total loss.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 11:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm glad some people still have the BALLS to watch out for each other and post information that might save lots of people from going through the another group buy mess "Aka Personal Loan". Its sad to see that some people will still send in there money and take there chances but you can only lead a horse to water, you cant make him drink.

If people do get stiffed in this buy then ALL the fence sitters will magically appear and say they "Knew it" and they were going to say something about it and they were behind WGtactical all the way, you know how it will go.Wink Then "Orin" and the other mods will come in and say "Why didn't you guys tells us we would have locked his thread before he could take your money" They usually show up right on schedule after the scams have already run its course.

Will have my comfy seat ready to watch to see how it goes but I already know how it will go down. Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 9:51 pm    Post subject: wow..... Reply with quote

I have a bag of popcorn and am watching this one intently...
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 9:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm trying to re-sign up for the forum, but I think my not-so-Right politics offended too many 1919-ers
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 8:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guys I appreciate the emails and PM's I receieved concerning this "projo buy", and respect all opinions. I am of the opinion that yes, he MAY have changed his ways, and there is always a chance of that. Has anyone had any dealings in the last two years with him or know personally of anyone that has? I'd like to know about them for obvious reasons.

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I understand giving a warning/headsup, and rightly so. I just hope the thread over there doesn't get obliterated with a lot of adjectives, verbs, and useless bickering (and it has started already from what I see over there)


Didn't come over to start anything - I have respected the opinions of this forum for a few years now and you all helped me get through my M2HB build 2 years ago. For that I once again say thank you all.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 9:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It’s kinda like anything else I guess…just because someone hasn’t screwed someone else out of something lately, doesn’t take away from the time when they did Wink Call me funny, but if someone screws someone else out of something…to me, I see it just like they did it to me too. This kind of character comes from enjoying a diet rich with integrity…evidently, the few that have it knows what I’m talking about Cool
I want a great deal just like anyone else, but there’s absolutely nothing I want bad enough that I need to get it from a known crook…but that’s just me.

Good luck on your purchase Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 9:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Considering that Mr Guss has been under the scrutiny of US Army CID in the past for his dealings, that he has changed addresses suddenly a few times in the middle of big deals, and that this particular case involves items in supposed large quantity that he admittedly does not have physical possession of..too many red flags there for my fragile blood pressure. I'll be interested to read the comments when the very first bullets are delivered. IF they are delivered. Good luck dude.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 5:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Saw this over there just this morning:

"We need to get the rest of the payments in at this time. Please hurry up as I am right now going to have to set it back a few days because of situations beyond my control. Th minimum purchase is 80000 bullets and we were well above that until third parties began screwing up this deal !!! I need to get payment in for at least the amount of bullets to make up the minimum !!"

Yet nobody seems to see any red flags Shocked I mean really...how gullible can a gaggle of guys be?? Laughing

A few of the red flags I have noted:

1-Known Crook

2-Advertized selling the bullets for the same price he would be buying them for plus actual shipping costs (who does that Confused )

3-Was supposed to take delivery yesterday, re-delivering by the end of the week (well that aint gonna happen)

4-Posted any checks showing up after that date will either be refunded or applied to a later buy (yeah, right Rolling Eyes )

5-Now waiting on the other 25% participation before the bullets are even purchased...no date when that will happen either (not that it would make a difference)

6-Stated in another post that he would now be renting a truck to go pick up the bullets...seems to me that if the savings were there for that, he'd just go ahead and pick them up with the money he already has Wink

7-Already blaming other parties for his "screwing up the deal"

Anyway if I missed anything, somebody please correct me Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 7:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So far everything seems to be going exactly as expected.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 8:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In his defense...he did use the word "possible" up front, no firm dates of delivery were ever set...and no warranties of any kind were ever expressed...just some good ol' fashion pillow talk Wink
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